Challenged in tribunal about why incapacitated compliant patient could not be on DOLS in hospital

Hi all , i am a forensic social worker , working with a person detained under section 37, we are in a position where we can be looking at this persons discharge to a 24 hour care setting on a 1:1 . A standard Authorisation under DoLs will be required.

I had a challenge in a tribunal as to why this person could not be on a DoLs now in hospital , they queried this as the least restrictive measure? i am aware both frameworks can be used here.

However -

i cited the ongoing need for checks, balances and protections associated with the MHA ( the refferal to the tribunal being an example of this), the need for a robust Section 17 leave as part of a discharge transition plan. I feel i may be a little stale on my legal literacy around this, and wondered if there was any more recent case law anyone could signpost me towards.

many thanks

On what basis does the Tribunal think being detained in hospital under DoLS is less restrictive than being detained in hospital under MHA s.37? In both cases you are detained in hospital, so the only material differences are the procedures and safeguards provided under each legal framework. I can’t see that DoLS is necessarily better than the MHA in this respect, and arguably it is worse. The change you have proposed from MHA to DoLS is surely because the plan is to discharge from hospital, and it is this if anything that will amount to a lesser restriction. The question you were asked seems to assume that DoLS is somehow a ‘nicer’ way to be deprived of liberty, which I think is not a very sensible way of looking at the matter.

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DoLS is nothing more than to deprive the DP of their Liberty under Art. 5 of HRA (1998).

Both are restrictive. What would be the point of both in a hospital setting?

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thank you this response , and i had a very similar albeit internal response , in that the concrete postion of this person wouldnt change , and that clearly efforts are being made . appreciate the feedback

Not advice. I’ve been there before. My standard lines are:

  1. The least restrictive principle is not law. It was invented by the CQC around 2007.
  2. The relevant principle is proportionality - which is not exactly the least restrictive principle. Proportionality is law when it comes to restrictions on Human Rights.
  3. The MHA trumps MCA for detained patients and there is no competition from the MCA to DOLS everybody who is on a section.
  4. DOLS is about deprivation of liberty - and does not have a clear purpose in treatment, though people fudge it and get away with it.
  5. The Tribunal ought to confine itself to the statutory criteria, instead of apparently applying (in effect) pressure to discharge the section i.e. Are the statutory criteria for detention met now (and in the near term). Yes - alternative ought to be considered but if the detention criteria are met, that’s the end of it.
  6. The option of a CTO is open to patients detained under S37 and S3, from which treatment can be ‘enforced’.
  7. S17(3) - is a good part of the treatment plan to assess the patients cooperation (consent not required).
  8. DOLS does not nearly provide the same levels of legal control and safe-guards in S17 (and MHACOP Chapter 27)

There may be case law somewhere on the internet. From the details given, I wouldn’t need to cite any case law.

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Even if the patient in a mental health hospital was eligible for DoLS - DoLS would only be an option if it were genuinely available. All LA’s I know have a backlog - the urgent authorisation lapses, months have gone by and the LA are no further in coordinating the assessments they are legally obliged to co-ordinate/complete (within 7 days of the urgent). Trusts should then not have to burden the courts to authorise the unlawful deprivation happening in hospital because of LA inaction (especially if the MHA can be used and actually has more protection and safeguards for the patient).

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many thanks for this VERY useful

The case that comes to mind is AM v SLAM . It gives a very good delineation of when the MCA could be used & should be used.

That being said - I would be very hesitant indeed to suggest to a Tribunal that someone under the MHA eligible for DoLS should be placed under DoLS as there are fewer safeguards as Mat stated.

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Well said! :pray::+1:

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Excellent case indeed. Those gluttons for punishment who need the full text can read it up here: AM v South London & Maudsley NHS Foundation & Anor | [2014] AACR 13 | Upper Tribunal (Administrative Appeals Chamber) | Judgment | Law | CaseMine

What a tangled web that has been woven for us. At the centre and suffusing ‘everything’ is ‘capacity’. Don’t start me up on ‘for what decision’ and how that is to be assessed, else I could be here all day! MHA capacity (in law) is a different test to Mental Capacity Act (2005). But nobody except me believes that - even if the evidence of the difference is in plain daylight.

But I’m reflecting on the ‘tangled web’. Before I became a doctor, I used to think that hospitals were places to treat very ill people who couldn’t be treated at home. When I became a doctor, I then learned that that wasn’t quite the case. My understanding was that they were also places for ‘social care’ for the not-so-ill. Then when I became a psychiatrist I realised that psychiatric facilities serve a major social care role. I was to be surprised that the MHA definition of ‘treatment’ was really about containment and social care. Some don’t even know that ‘medication’ is not in the definition of ‘treatment’ (S145). Medication is slipped in via the side door in S58.

Post-2005 the web of confusion expanded as the Mental Capacity Act (2005) aimed to consolidate a load of case law on capacity/consent. ‘People’ (aka mental health staff) had been sent on courses at much cost ever since. But - just a about 6 months ago I’m schooled by a senior nurse that a patient certain patient had capacity for everything. She had a partial point because the MCA states that everybody should be presumed to have capacity for everything. And so many doctors (and other staff) assume capacity even when there is significant reason from impairment to require a formal capacity test. Don’t start me up about what goes on in parts of Nothern Ireland (where very similar MH Order is treated ‘differently’).

Common sense has been largely replaced by case law. I read many judgments about mental health cases and think to myself ‘Isn’t this common sense - why did this reach the courts in the first place?’

But what’s ‘common’ to me is not common to ‘everybody else’. ‘Everybody’ does not read the law, think about it carefully and apply it - that’s my experience over the last 30 years.

If you’re a judge in the Supreme Court or Appeal Court, you’re unlikely to regularly visit psychiatric OPCS, PICUs, Acute Gen Psych wards, medium security or high security hospitals. I can safetly estimate that judgments become a philsophical exercise. As a judge ‘you decide’ the law and everybody else can clear off - like it or not. Judges don’t pick up the pieces and see the madness of infigthing - the attempts to massage the law out of proportion to fit what the ‘system’s’ needs.

So having gone round the houses a bit, I return home. DOLS was not designed for containing and treating people in hospitals. Arguments invited. The MHA was designed to contain very unwell people (aka detain them) in a hospital for treatment/assessment. But via the tangled web services are being forced do DOLS people in hospitals where the DOLS provisions simply cannot work.

If there are any judges on this forum, I formally invite you all to walk with me for one day in any psychiatric unit I may work at. See what you don’t see when you make those judgments. See real people - real suffering - then rethink DOLS and MHA decisions.