# \#treatment

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## [Medical treatment to address future sex offending risk ](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/medical-treatment-to-address-future-sex-offending-risk/6042)

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**Author:** [@CaptainWalker](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/u/CaptainWalker)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [26 August 2026 22:24 UTC](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/medical-treatment-to-address-future-sex-offending-risk/6042 "2026-08-26T22:24:06Z")

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It’s called Medication to Manage Problematic Sexual Arousal. The short name is MMPSA. Pick up on the story Thousands of sex offenders in England and Wales could get libido-suppressing drugs | Prisons and probation | The …

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## [They put me on a T3 but can I go back on a T2?](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/they-put-me-on-a-t3-but-can-i-go-back-on-a-t2/5357)

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**Author:** [@jah](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/u/jah)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [20 March 2026 22:05 UTC](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/they-put-me-on-a-t3-but-can-i-go-back-on-a-t2/5357 "2026-03-20T22:05:43Z")

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Hi there I’m currently on a 37/41 and I’ve been on it since 2020 but I’ve been in hospital for mental health issues but since I have been in they put me on a T3 but I was on a T2 and I have the compassion to concent to t…

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## [All covertly medicated patients on dementia ward moved from DOLS to s3 -- why?](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/all-covertly-medicated-patients-on-dementia-ward-moved-from-dols-to-s3-why/3524)

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**Author:** [@Trees62](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/u/Trees62)\
**Replies:** 5\
**Last updated:** [18 November 2025 17:20 UTC](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/all-covertly-medicated-patients-on-dementia-ward-moved-from-dols-to-s3-why/3524 "2025-11-18T17:20:32Z")

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This came up in a managers hearing around less restrictive option for a client on a elderly dementia ward DoLS have just suddenly changed the way they operate on the ward and seem to be being much more harsh with the c…

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## [Number of ECT treatments that can be specified under s62 pending SOAD T6 authorisation](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/number-of-ect-treatments-that-can-be-specified-under-s62-pending-soad-t6-authorisation/4410)

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**Author:** [@anonymous34](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/u/anonymous34)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [7 October 2025 16:55 UTC](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/number-of-ect-treatments-that-can-be-specified-under-s62-pending-soad-t6-authorisation/4410 "2025-10-07T16:55:42Z")

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Hello I know there is no statutory limit to the number of ECT treatments that can be authorised under T4 or T6 with the usual being 12, but what about ECT under s62? Some are saying only 2 ECT treatments can be specifie…

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## [Does s58 apply to persons detained under s36 Mental Health Act 1983?](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/does-s58-apply-to-persons-detained-under-s36-mental-health-act-1983/4077)

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**Author:** [@CaptainWalker](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/u/CaptainWalker)\
**Replies:** 4\
**Last updated:** [24 August 2025 20:18 UTC](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/does-s58-apply-to-persons-detained-under-s36-mental-health-act-1983/4077 "2025-08-24T20:18:23Z")

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Yes the question is “Does Section 58 apply to persons detained under S36 Mental Health Act 1983 (Amended 2007)?” As usual ‘some’ people believe S58 applies and ‘some’ people believe it doesn’t. So as not to contaminate …

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## [Treatment following s37/41 recall](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/treatment-following-s37-41-recall/3922)

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**Author:** [@shani](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/u/shani)\
**Replies:** 5\
**Last updated:** [22 July 2025 18:03 UTC](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/treatment-following-s37-41-recall/3922 "2025-07-22T18:03:56Z")

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Does a S37/41 recall go on S62 to be medicated and SOAD application be completed?

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## [Medication imposed in community after discharge](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/medication-imposed-in-community-after-discharge/3630)

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**Author:** [@Sarah2](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/u/Sarah2)\
**Replies:** 20\
**Last updated:** [24 May 2025 10:33 UTC](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/medication-imposed-in-community-after-discharge/3630 "2025-05-24T10:33:42Z")

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Hi all, A patient was discharged from section 3 in 2018. The responsible clinician signed off on the section 23 discharge form ticking ‘The patient will be discharged from hospital/CTO on (date) //2018.’ The patient wa…

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## [Treatment outside of Statute in S136 suites](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/treatment-outside-of-statute-in-s136-suites/3436)

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**Author:** [@CaptainWalker](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/u/CaptainWalker)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [11 March 2025 23:00 UTC](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/treatment-outside-of-statute-in-s136-suites/3436 "2025-03-11T23:00:43Z")

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As everybody should know, S136 does not allow for treatment with medications whether consenting or not. \[I own copyright to the image, just in case\] Scenario this week: Male patient in early 30s with only rudiment…

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## [Capacity Assessment, Informed Consent and Attorneys](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/capacity-assessment-informed-consent-and-attorneys/2640)

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**Author:** [@george](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/u/george)\
**Replies:** 4\
**Last updated:** [2 March 2025 22:59 UTC](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/capacity-assessment-informed-consent-and-attorneys/2640 "2025-03-02T22:59:46Z")

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I am very concerned about the way the NHS acute hospitals are undertaking capacity assessments, recording informed consent in medical records and liaising with attorneys. Last year my mother (92 years old, with a diagno…

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## [Appropriate treatment for EUPD](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/appropriate-treatment-for-eupd/3317)

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**Author:** [@CaptainWalker](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/u/CaptainWalker)\
**Replies:** 5\
**Last updated:** [24 February 2025 09:03 UTC](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/appropriate-treatment-for-eupd/3317 "2025-02-24T09:03:05Z")

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I can tell everyone that over the last 5 years across the length and breadth of the UK (not Scotland but not excluding Northern Ireland) the following is my honest experience: There is a rapid rise in EUPD diagnoses co…

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## [Stopping antipsychotic medication for autism](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/stopping-antipsychotic-medication-for-autism/3134)

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**Author:** [@anon88676405](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/u/anon88676405)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [22 January 2025 22:57 UTC](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/stopping-antipsychotic-medication-for-autism/3134 "2025-01-22T22:57:32Z")

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If an individual with a primary diagnosis of autism and secondary diagnoses of F29 Unspecified non-organic psychosis and anxiety disorder has been prescribed anti-psychotic medication for several years, then is assigned …

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## [Should CTO12 signatory have done the assessment?](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/should-cto12-signatory-have-done-the-assessment/3013)

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**Author:** [@anonymous34](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/u/anonymous34)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [10 January 2025 00:04 UTC](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/should-cto12-signatory-have-done-the-assessment/3013 "2025-01-10T00:04:05Z")

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There is another thing that is bothering me. ST6 doctors for example doing the legwork/assessments for treatment certificates so that the RC can then complete/certify consent on a CTO12 - and as the treatment forms qui…

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## [Remote assessment for CTO treatment forms](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/remote-assessment-for-cto-treatment-forms/2996)

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**Author:** [@anonymous34](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/u/anonymous34)\
**Replies:** 3\
**Last updated:** [9 January 2025 09:55 UTC](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/remote-assessment-for-cto-treatment-forms/2996 "2025-01-09T09:55:52Z")

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Hi Just wondering what your views are on RCs undertaking, dialogue/discussion over the phone to help confirm whether a patient is consenting to their proposed treatment for purpose of a CTO12 or SOAD certificate for CTO…

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## [SOAD assessments by telephone](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/soad-assessments-by-telephone/3044)

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**Author:** [@Karen](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/u/Karen)\
**Replies:** 7\
**Last updated:** [17 December 2024 23:47 UTC](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/soad-assessments-by-telephone/3044 "2024-12-17T23:47:25Z")

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I know SOADs are allowed to assess remotely but can they assess by telephone? Is there anything to prevent them doing this?

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## [New T2 required on RC's return from leave?](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/new-t2-required-on-rcs-return-from-leave/2734)

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**Author:** [@Jane](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/u/Jane)\
**Replies:** 7\
**Last updated:** [11 December 2024 09:58 UTC](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/new-t2-required-on-rcs-return-from-leave/2734 "2024-12-11T09:58:21Z")

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We have a patient whose 3-month rule expired during a period their RC being on leave. The covering RC completed the T2. My question is Should a new T2 be completed by the patient’s RC following their leave?

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## [Definition of Medical Treatment for Mental Disorder](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/definition-of-medical-treatment-for-mental-disorder/2689)

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**Author:** [@Barry](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/u/Barry)\
**Replies:** 6\
**Last updated:** [27 September 2024 15:44 UTC](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/definition-of-medical-treatment-for-mental-disorder/2689 "2024-09-27T15:44:29Z")

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What are the boundaries set by statute and/or case law in the definition of “medical treatment for mental disorder”? I am aware that the term can be interpreted very widely, but I think there must be some limitation on w…

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## [Forced treatment after MHA assessment but before hospital admission](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/forced-treatment-after-mha-assessment-but-before-hospital-admission/2065)

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**Author:** [@Taylor](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/u/Taylor)\
**Replies:** 17\
**Last updated:** [2 August 2024 18:36 UTC](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/forced-treatment-after-mha-assessment-but-before-hospital-admission/2065 "2024-08-02T18:36:01Z")

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Hello All, I have heard of case were an aggressive patient, was assessed at home by virtue of a sec 135 warrant. he was placed on section 3. DR and nurse want to rapid tranquilise, to make journey safer. Patient did no…

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## [Section 3 and personal care](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/section-3-and-personal-care/2287)

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**Author:** [@S4mathew](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/u/S4mathew)\
**Replies:** 7\
**Last updated:** [15 March 2024 12:14 UTC](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/section-3-and-personal-care/2287 "2024-03-15T12:14:04Z")

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Hi we have a dementia patient on section 3, who declines shower quite often. His wife was very upset and demanding staff to shower him every day. She always use the phrase “he is not having capacity to decide “ but the p…

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## [ECT under CTO](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/ect-under-cto/2271)

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**Author:** [@anonymous28](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/u/anonymous28)\
**Replies:** 4\
**Last updated:** [7 March 2024 13:46 UTC](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/ect-under-cto/2271 "2024-03-07T13:46:03Z")

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Hi If an adult patient has capacity and consenting to ECT under a CTO whilst remaining in the community could the RC certify the course of ECT via a CTO12? Thanking you in advance.

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## [The MHA, force-feeding and best interests](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/the-mha-force-feeding-and-best-interests/2219)

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**Author:** [@SPC](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/u/SPC)\
**Replies:** 4\
**Last updated:** [28 February 2024 12:09 UTC](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/the-mha-force-feeding-and-best-interests/2219 "2024-02-28T12:09:38Z")

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Discharge planning is taking place for an S117-qualifying patient. There is a history of restrain and force-feeding and multiple hospital admissions. Can force-feeding occur in specified accommodations in the community…

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## [Enforced administration of medication after s2 recommendations and application](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/enforced-administration-of-medication-after-s2-recommendations-and-application/2248)

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**Author:** [@Lavinia](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/u/Lavinia)\
**Replies:** 8\
**Last updated:** [12 February 2024 21:02 UTC](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/enforced-administration-of-medication-after-s2-recommendations-and-application/2248 "2024-02-12T21:02:35Z")

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Patient is in hospital ED Department Recommendations in place for a Section 2 MHA Waiting for a psychiatric bed to be identified First time with Mental Health problems Anti Psychotic Medication prescribed Not review…

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## [Sodium valproate and T3’s](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/sodium-valproate-and-t3-s/1814)

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**Author:** [@Paul1](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/u/Paul1)\
**Replies:** 8\
**Last updated:** [29 August 2023 14:26 UTC](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/sodium-valproate-and-t3-s/1814 "2023-08-29T14:26:43Z")

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Hello everyone. I hope you all well. I’ve been told that sodium valproate is not licensed as an anti manic. However, some of our patients with T3’s have sodium valproate as an anti manic. Does anyone have thoughts about …

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## [Unsafe prescribing cases](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/unsafe-prescribing-cases/1610)

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**Author:** [@Ashman](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/u/Ashman)\
**Replies:** 3\
**Last updated:** [3 June 2023 19:59 UTC](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/unsafe-prescribing-cases/1610 "2023-06-03T19:59:03Z")

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Hello, I’m a psychiatry trainee interested in deprescribing psychiatric medication. Something that prevents many clinicians from wanting to deprescribe a medication, is the threat that a subsequent bad outcome (ie suic…

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## [Covert Medication - Section 61](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/covert-medication-section-61/1436)

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**Author:** [@samiegd27](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/u/samiegd27)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [17 January 2023 10:38 UTC](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/covert-medication-section-61/1436 "2023-01-17T10:38:01Z")

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When a Section 61 is processed for a patient, a copy of that report is then sent to the patient as per the Code of Practice. If the patient is being covertly medicated, how can the report then be sent to the patient?

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## [Section 63](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/section-63/1384)

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**Author:** [@Jade1](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/u/Jade1)\
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**Last updated:** [1 December 2022 14:16 UTC](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/section-63/1384 "2022-12-01T14:16:35Z")

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If a section 63 is required for an in-patient, does this need to be followed by and application to the Court of Protection. After reading the case studies around S63 majority of them have gone to the Court of Protection.…

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## [Informal patient - Acute hospital - Not eating](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/informal-patient-acute-hospital-not-eating/1174)

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**Author:** [@Jade1](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/u/Jade1)\
**Replies:** 4\
**Last updated:** [17 August 2022 07:27 UTC](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/informal-patient-acute-hospital-not-eating/1174 "2022-08-17T07:27:56Z")

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We currently have an informal patient who has capacity in our Acute Mental Health Hospital. We have been monitoring their eating and drinking since admission due to the lack of food intake ( nothing was noted on referral…

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## [Three month rule and T2](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/three-month-rule-and-t2/1063)

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**Author:** [@MHAA](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/u/MHAA)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [8 July 2022 14:21 UTC](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/three-month-rule-and-t2/1063 "2022-07-08T14:21:17Z")

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When a T2 has been completed within the three month rule period. Does the 3 month rule end? or can three month rule still be used if capacity changes again?

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## [Administration of Covert Medication for people detained under the Mental Health Act](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/administration-of-covert-medication-for-people-detained-under-the-mental-health-act/991)

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**Author:** [@JamesCodling](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/u/JamesCodling)\
**Replies:** 6\
**Last updated:** [18 June 2022 13:51 UTC](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/administration-of-covert-medication-for-people-detained-under-the-mental-health-act/991 "2022-06-18T13:51:19Z")

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I was asked a question about the administration of Covert Medication when the person is currently detained in a psychiatric hospital under the provisions of the Mental Health Act. This is not an area I am personally conf…

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## [Unlawful treatment](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/unlawful-treatment/515)

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**Author:** [@Karen](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/u/Karen)\
**Replies:** 9\
**Last updated:** [17 May 2021 20:48 UTC](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/unlawful-treatment/515 "2021-05-17T20:48:48Z")

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My client informs me that she has just been given her depot without her consent. She was on a CTO until yesterday when the MHT discharged it. She says the nurse arrived from the depot clinic and she firmly declined but t…
