# \#dol **URL:** https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/tag/dol/2.md [Latest](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/latest.md) · [Categories](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/categories.md) · [Tags](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/tags.md) --- ## [Where does Cheshire West No. 2 and "valid consent" leave CD(Dep)? And CTOs?](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/where-does-cheshire-west-no-2-and-valid-consent-leave-cd-dep-and-ctos/5710)
**Author:** [@ZacSussex](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/u/ZacSussex)\ **Replies:** 21\ **Last updated:** [1 October 2026 16:03 UTC](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/where-does-cheshire-west-no-2-and-valid-consent-leave-cd-dep-and-ctos/5710 "2026-10-01T16:03:05Z")
I’m still digesting the new UKSC case, but it sounds like CD(Dep) provisions are almost completely dead in the water as currently interpreted by the FtT. Cheshire West established an objective test about whether restric… --- ## ['Valid consent' provided by advance statement?](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/valid-consent-provided-by-advance-statement/5773)
**Author:** [@JamesCodling](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/u/JamesCodling)\ **Replies:** 0\ **Last updated:** [12 June 2026 15:40 UTC](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/valid-consent-provided-by-advance-statement/5773 "2026-06-12T15:40:41Z")
Continuing the discussion from If coercion is a necessary element of 'confinement' when could there ever be 'valid consent'?: Another interesting question is whether it leaves open the option for advance consent to conf… --- ## [If coercion is a necessary element of 'confinement' when could there ever be 'valid consent'?](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/if-coercion-is-a-necessary-element-of-confinement-when-could-there-ever-be-valid-consent/5772)
**Author:** [@JamesCodling](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/u/JamesCodling)\ **Replies:** 3\ **Last updated:** [12 June 2026 10:21 UTC](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/if-coercion-is-a-necessary-element-of-confinement-when-could-there-ever-be-valid-consent/5772 "2026-06-12T10:21:12Z")
Interested in the hive mind views on the little Venn diagram i have put together on the recent AGNI ruling… In my mind the presence of ‘objection’ or ‘conflict’ will ultimately be a determining factor when considering th… --- ## [Reflections on AGNI decision](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/reflections-on-agni-decision/5716)
**Author:** [@CaptainWalker](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/u/CaptainWalker)\ **Replies:** 2\ **Last updated:** [9 June 2026 10:04 UTC](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/reflections-on-agni-decision/5716 "2026-06-09T10:04:42Z")
In essence Cheshire West was laid to rest. The true nature of Article 5 - hand in hand with the 1966 Practice Statement - meant a return to the past. No bad thing. The interpretation of the MCA and it’s Code of Practic… --- ## [COP DOL, and DOLS standard authorisation](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/cop-dol-and-dols-standard-authorisation/2908)
**Author:** [@GemmaH](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/u/GemmaH)\ **Replies:** 2\ **Last updated:** [7 November 2024 23:16 UTC](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/cop-dol-and-dols-standard-authorisation/2908 "2024-11-07T23:16:11Z")
Hi all. I have a resident, subject to CD and standard DoLS authorisation. Ongoing transition to supported living and today finally the COP authority has come through. Are both DoLS authorities valid or does the COP trump… --- ## [Deprivation of liberty - how many times?](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/deprivation-of-liberty-how-many-times/2515)
**Author:** [@Andred](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/u/Andred)\ **Replies:** 3\ **Last updated:** [25 June 2024 21:00 UTC](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/deprivation-of-liberty-how-many-times/2515 "2024-06-25T21:00:56Z")
How many times is it legal for someone to be deprived of their liberty. --- ## [Lawfulness of conditions of residence](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/lawfulness-of-conditions-of-residence/1876)
**Author:** [@Ngema](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/u/Ngema)\ **Replies:** 7\ **Last updated:** [25 September 2023 11:38 UTC](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/lawfulness-of-conditions-of-residence/1876 "2023-09-25T11:38:03Z")
Continuing the discussion from CTO & s117 responsibility: I thought “residing at a particular place/ address” cannot be a CTO condition and only DoLS can cover residing ar condition…… --- ## [National DOL Court for under 18s](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/national-dol-court-for-under-18s/1032)
**Author:** [@HFS](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/u/HFS)\ **Replies:** 2\ **Last updated:** [28 June 2022 06:50 UTC](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/national-dol-court-for-under-18s/1032 "2022-06-28T06:50:54Z")
very concerning how the MHA/DOLS can be used to authorise completely inappropriate placements for young people especially. you may find interesting Launch of National Deprivation of Liberty (DoLs) Court at the Royal Cour… --- ## [Can DOLS sit together with section 2 MHA](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/can-dols-sit-together-with-section-2-mha/961)
**Author:** [@HFS](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/u/HFS)\ **Replies:** 1\ **Last updated:** [30 May 2022 08:09 UTC](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/can-dols-sit-together-with-section-2-mha/961 "2022-05-30T08:09:39Z")
A family court order DOLS to continue at a review hearing in circumstances where the patient has since been detained under s2? The original DOLS was made in APRIL to last till July. Review hearing set up May. This conce… --- ## [DOLS and Misuse of money/property accusations against EPA](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/dols-and-misuse-of-money-property-accusations-against-epa/736)
**Author:** [@AJM](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/u/AJM)\ **Replies:** 0\ **Last updated:** [8 January 2022 14:26 UTC](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/dols-and-misuse-of-money-property-accusations-against-epa/736 "2022-01-08T14:26:24Z")
My mother is in a psychiatric hospital, under section 3, as in previous post. She is now due to be discharged in next month and community care team have been in touch to update CPA then MDT meeting and suggested Best int… --- ## [MCA and discharge to bespoke placement](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/mca-and-discharge-to-bespoke-placement/293)
**Author:** [@Karen](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/u/Karen)\ **Replies:** 11\ **Last updated:** [15 January 2021 12:43 UTC](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/mca-and-discharge-to-bespoke-placement/293 "2021-01-15T12:43:46Z")
Where a patient is being discharged to a bespoke (non-care home) placement with live-in carers and will be deprived of their liberty what is the correct approach? If the LA have applied to the CoP and this is going to t… --- ## [Deprivation of liberty and conditional discharge](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/deprivation-of-liberty-and-conditional-discharge/20)
**Author:** [@Karen](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/u/Karen)\ **Replies:** 3\ **Last updated:** [21 October 2020 10:55 UTC](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/deprivation-of-liberty-and-conditional-discharge/20 "2020-10-21T10:55:38Z")
Increasingly I find that tribunals want to impose conditions on Conditional Discharge that the patient cannot stay away from the accommodation overnight without permission of the clinical team. I have argued that this co…