# \#agni **URL:** https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/tag/agni/143.md [Latest](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/latest.md) · [Categories](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/categories.md) · [Tags](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/tags.md) --- ## [Early post-AGNI court judgments](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/early-post-agni-court-judgments/5968)
**Author:** [@JamesCodling](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/u/JamesCodling)\ **Replies:** 26\ **Last updated:** [30 October 2026 14:04 UTC](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/early-post-agni-court-judgments/5968 "2026-10-30T14:04:24Z")
Here is the link to the recent Oxfordshire County Council v P - Find Case Law - The National Archives Court of Protection case… I personally found most ‘interesting’ paragraphs 16 and 17 which is the analysis as to why t… --- ## [Where does Cheshire West No. 2 and "valid consent" leave CD(Dep)? And CTOs?](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/where-does-cheshire-west-no-2-and-valid-consent-leave-cd-dep-and-ctos/5710)
**Author:** [@ZacSussex](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/u/ZacSussex)\ **Replies:** 21\ **Last updated:** [1 October 2026 16:03 UTC](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/where-does-cheshire-west-no-2-and-valid-consent-leave-cd-dep-and-ctos/5710 "2026-10-01T16:03:05Z")
I’m still digesting the new UKSC case, but it sounds like CD(Dep) provisions are almost completely dead in the water as currently interpreted by the FtT. Cheshire West established an objective test about whether restric… --- ## [AGNI ruling - paradigm psychiatric settings](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/agni-ruling-paradigm-psychiatric-settings/6135)
**Author:** [@steve-trunk](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/u/steve-trunk)\ **Replies:** 1\ **Last updated:** [17 September 2026 08:48 UTC](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/agni-ruling-paradigm-psychiatric-settings/6135 "2026-09-17T08:48:14Z")
With regard to the paradigm of a prison cell there are also several references to psychiatric settings. In reality the majority of wards now see P being behind double or triple locked doors with the prospect of the MHA… --- ## [DOLS/Court of Protection order -- advice please](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/dols-court-of-protection-order-advice-please/6087)
**Author:** [@Moojie](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/u/Moojie)\ **Replies:** 5\ **Last updated:** [7 September 2026 06:35 UTC](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/dols-court-of-protection-order-advice-please/6087 "2026-09-07T06:35:26Z")
My partner had a DoLS due to expire on 4 July 2026. Following s21A proceedings, the Court of Protection authorised an extension of the DoLS to 4 January 2027. The case has since been concluded The LA has subsequently re… --- ## [RoL in the absence of DoL (and the safeguards)](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/rol-in-the-absence-of-dol-and-the-safeguards/5971)
**Author:** [@RuthM](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/u/RuthM)\ **Replies:** 4\ **Last updated:** [3 August 2026 06:44 UTC](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/rol-in-the-absence-of-dol-and-the-safeguards/5971 "2026-08-03T06:44:29Z")
Apologies if this is slightly off-topic, but increasingly I see AGNI as presenting opportunities as well as risks. That was not my initial reaction. My first concern was reduction safeguards for some of the most vulnerab… --- ## [Can a LA remove a DoLS authorisation after a CoP order extending it?](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/can-a-la-remove-a-dols-authorisation-after-a-cop-order-extending-it/5941)
**Author:** [@Moojie](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/u/Moojie)\ **Replies:** 7\ **Last updated:** [25 July 2026 07:24 UTC](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/can-a-la-remove-a-dols-authorisation-after-a-cop-order-extending-it/5941 "2026-07-25T07:24:44Z")
I have a legal question about a recent Court of Protection s21A case. The court concluded the proceedings and extended the DoLS authorisation until 4 January 2027. Six days later, the local authority’s DoLS team carried … --- ## [If coercion is a necessary element of 'confinement' when could there ever be 'valid consent'?](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/if-coercion-is-a-necessary-element-of-confinement-when-could-there-ever-be-valid-consent/5772)
**Author:** [@JamesCodling](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/u/JamesCodling)\ **Replies:** 3\ **Last updated:** [12 June 2026 10:21 UTC](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/if-coercion-is-a-necessary-element-of-confinement-when-could-there-ever-be-valid-consent/5772 "2026-06-12T10:21:12Z")
Interested in the hive mind views on the little Venn diagram i have put together on the recent AGNI ruling… In my mind the presence of ‘objection’ or ‘conflict’ will ultimately be a determining factor when considering th… --- ## [Reflections on AGNI decision](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/reflections-on-agni-decision/5716)
**Author:** [@CaptainWalker](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/u/CaptainWalker)\ **Replies:** 2\ **Last updated:** [9 June 2026 10:04 UTC](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/reflections-on-agni-decision/5716 "2026-06-09T10:04:42Z")
In essence Cheshire West was laid to rest. The true nature of Article 5 - hand in hand with the 1966 Practice Statement - meant a return to the past. No bad thing. The interpretation of the MCA and it’s Code of Practic… --- ## [Cheshire West 2 and the objective element](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/cheshire-west-2-and-the-objective-element/4662)
**Author:** [@Jonathan](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/u/Jonathan)\ **Replies:** 6\ **Last updated:** [26 November 2025 08:05 UTC](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/cheshire-west-2-and-the-objective-element/4662 "2025-11-26T08:05:50Z")
Continuing the discussion from Cheshire West logic: Here’s another topic, to discuss this aspect. The AGNI’s reference wasn’t about the objective element – “confinement to a certain limited place for a not negligible l… --- ## [Cheshire West 2 and the subjective element](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/cheshire-west-2-and-the-subjective-element/4661)
**Author:** [@Jonathan](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/u/Jonathan)\ **Replies:** 4\ **Last updated:** [18 November 2025 15:38 UTC](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/cheshire-west-2-and-the-subjective-element/4661 "2025-11-18T15:38:39Z")
Continuing the discussion from Cheshire West logic: Here’s a topic to discuss this. The AGNI’s argument was that the subjective element of deprivation of liberty – “lack of valid consent” – has an autonomous ECHR meani…