# Have pre-hearing examinations in Wales recommenced?

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**Category:** Mental Health Tribunal\
**Tags:** mhrt-for-wales\
**Created:** [20 October 2022 13:49 UTC](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/have-pre-hearing-examinations-in-wales-recommenced/1292 "2022-10-20T13:49:33Z")\
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**Author:** ![Jonathan](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/user_avatar/forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/jonathan/32/88_2.png) [@Jonathan](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/u/Jonathan)\
**Post date:** [20 October 2022 13:49 UTC](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/have-pre-hearing-examinations-in-wales-recommenced/1292/1 "2022-10-20T13:49:33Z")

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The last I heard was back in May 2022 and at that point there hadn’t been any PHEs since the beginning of the coronavirus pandemic. What is the current situation?

The reason I ask is that the updated [Law Society, ‘Practice note: Representation before mental health tribunals’ (31/8/22)](https://www.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/Law_Society,_%27Practice_note:_Representation_before_mental_health_tribunals%27_(31/8/22)) states:

> However, if your case is before the Welsh tribunal, the default position is that the tribunal will carry out a preliminary examination.
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> In Wales, it remains the case that PHEs are indicated in every case. However there remain practical post-COVID difficulties with access to the patient either in person or remotely at most venues, so further guidance should be sought from the tribunal office.

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**Author:** ![desiwilliams](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/ed655f/32.png) [@desiwilliams](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/u/desiwilliams)\
**Post date:** [21 October 2022 09:19 UTC](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/have-pre-hearing-examinations-in-wales-recommenced/1292/2 "2022-10-21T09:19:02Z")

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Hi Jonathan  
Still no PHE’s in Wales. Also no indication on the return of F2F hearings.  
I had a video hearing this week and the Judge said he wasn’t sure but nothing likely to change until the New Year  
Thanks  
Desi