# Care home top up fees and bank details

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**Created:** [10 May 2022 10:39 UTC](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/care-home-top-up-fees-and-bank-details/926 "2022-05-10T10:39:57Z")\
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**Author:** ![AJM](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/5fc32e/32.png) [@AJM](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/u/AJM)\
**Post date:** [10 May 2022 10:39 UTC](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/care-home-top-up-fees-and-bank-details/926/1 "2022-05-10T10:39:57Z")

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Is it usual to request a patients bank account details (incl account number, sort code) when arranging S117 care home discharge? Has anybody come accross this practice?  
Thanks

AJM

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**Author:** ![Sturner](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/49beb7/32.png) [@Sturner](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/u/Sturner)\
**Post date:** [19 May 2022 17:18 UTC](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/care-home-top-up-fees-and-bank-details/926/2 "2022-05-19T17:18:36Z")

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I would not expect it to be taken as the responsible la and CCG would be responsible for the care home fees. Including any extra 1:1 hours that are assessed as required.

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**Author:** ![SocialWorkerGary](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/user_avatar/forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/socialworkergary/32/296_2.png) [@SocialWorkerGary](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/u/SocialWorkerGary)\
**Post date:** [20 May 2022 07:28 UTC](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/care-home-top-up-fees-and-bank-details/926/3 "2022-05-20T07:28:15Z")

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Unless the LA are making an application for Court Appointed Deputyship for P&A, or Appointeeship. Or, maybe the LA are arranged a refund of charges where P was eligible for S117 aftercare. Other reason may be P has both S117 and non-S117 needs and liable for pay for non S117 needs, but we don’t ask for bank details unless we’re also seeking deputy or appointeeship.

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**Author:** ![AJM](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/5fc32e/32.png) [@AJM](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/u/AJM)\
**Post date:** [20 May 2022 16:46 UTC](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/care-home-top-up-fees-and-bank-details/926/4 "2022-05-20T16:46:48Z")

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Hello Gary, The details were requested in a roundabout way, for something else not directly. I hold an EPA which covers finance and property so why would the LA want to appoint a deputy in these areas? (property and affairs) There is no outstanding debt or payment issues as my mother is entitled to S117 aftercare funding which has been approved currently.

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**Author:** ![AJM](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/5fc32e/32.png) [@AJM](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/u/AJM)\
**Post date:** [20 May 2022 16:51 UTC](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/care-home-top-up-fees-and-bank-details/926/5 "2022-05-20T16:51:16Z")

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Hello Samantha, Yes I was quite shocked when I was asked for these details. It was done in a confused way. I would not give anybody’s bank details out without verifying exactly what they were for and who was requesting them. It appeared like a scammer would do.
