# Other **URL:** https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/c/law-and-practice/other/16.md?page=2 [Latest](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/latest.md) · [Categories](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/categories.md) · [Tags](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/tags.md) **Page:** 3 --- ## [Question about next of kin and social security appointeeship](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/question-about-next-of-kin-and-social-security-appointeeship/3681)
**Author:** [@PhinaO](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/u/PhinaO)\ **Replies:** 4\ **Last updated:** [21 May 2025 10:21 UTC](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/question-about-next-of-kin-and-social-security-appointeeship/3681 "2025-05-21T10:21:54Z")
If a resident with capacity has no one to put down as their next of kin. What would be their options ? --- ## [Level of corporate fines for criminal conduct](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/level-of-corporate-fines-for-criminal-conduct/3673)
**Author:** [@CaptainWalker](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/u/CaptainWalker)\ **Replies:** 0\ **Last updated:** [18 May 2025 14:50 UTC](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/level-of-corporate-fines-for-criminal-conduct/3673 "2025-05-18T14:50:48Z")
Continuing the discussion from Case (Prosecution of independent hospital). R v Cygnet Health Care Limited \[2023\] MHLO 6: According to public data Cygnet Health Care’s Group revenue for the year ended December 31, 2023, … --- ## [Article 9 Rights](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/article-9-rights/3668)
**Author:** [@CaptainWalker](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/u/CaptainWalker)\ **Replies:** 0\ **Last updated:** [15 May 2025 16:40 UTC](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/article-9-rights/3668 "2025-05-15T16:40:49Z")
Detained patient has Rosary beads on a chain. Now wants a Holy Cross to put on a chain. Medium secure setting. Obviously this situation depends on risk and I cannot detail those risks here. However, there is always a b… --- ## [DPA issues](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/dpa-issues/3625)
**Author:** [@anonymous58](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/u/anonymous58)\ **Replies:** 1\ **Last updated:** [5 May 2025 21:32 UTC](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/dpa-issues/3625 "2025-05-05T21:32:45Z")
It used to be the case that when a solicitor said that they were acting on behalf of a client that was sufficient authority for the RA to give them information. Our local RA has suddenly become highly pedantic about thi… --- ## [Homicide & Insanity x 2](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/homicide-insanity-x-2/3623)
**Author:** [@CaptainWalker](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/u/CaptainWalker)\ **Replies:** 0\ **Last updated:** [4 May 2025 10:30 UTC](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/homicide-insanity-x-2/3623 "2025-05-04T10:30:36Z")
I’m hoping that our generous moderator allows this post for discussion. Lessons for the UK could be ahead It has happened in New Zealand. In a case described as “shrouded in secrecy,” a man in New Zealand has been found… --- ## [Freedom of Information Act](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/freedom-of-information-act/3621)
**Author:** [@anon88676405](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/u/anon88676405)\ **Replies:** 2\ **Last updated:** [3 May 2025 13:59 UTC](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/freedom-of-information-act/3621 "2025-05-03T13:59:37Z")
Is there any form that can be filled in easily to obtain information using the Freedom of Information Act? I have tried googling this, but it’s proving very difficult on the Government’s website for a specific address, … --- ## [UK Supreme court rules that a woman is a woman](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/uk-supreme-court-rules-that-a-woman-is-a-woman/3598)
**Author:** [@CaptainWalker](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/u/CaptainWalker)\ **Replies:** 0\ **Last updated:** [21 April 2025 17:02 UTC](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/uk-supreme-court-rules-that-a-woman-is-a-woman/3598 "2025-04-21T17:02:15Z")
The recent UK Supreme Court judgment in For Women Scotland Ltd v The Scottish Ministers (\[2025\] UKSC 16) has clarified a long-standing ambiguity in equality law: what does the term “woman” mean in the Equality Act 2010? … --- ## [Lawfulness of ward with no RMN on shift](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/lawfulness-of-ward-with-no-rmn-on-shift/3542)
**Author:** [@MoiraG](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/u/MoiraG)\ **Replies:** 3\ **Last updated:** [14 April 2025 08:24 UTC](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/lawfulness-of-ward-with-no-rmn-on-shift/3542 "2025-04-14T08:24:35Z")
Can anyone advise what are the possible legal consequences of a Trust consistently running mental health hospital wards without a registered mental health nurse on shift? i.e. only general nurse present. --- ## [Risks of whistleblowing](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/risks-of-whistleblowing/3557)
**Author:** [@CaptainWalker](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/u/CaptainWalker)\ **Replies:** 7\ **Last updated:** [13 April 2025 23:25 UTC](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/risks-of-whistleblowing/3557 "2025-04-13T23:25:35Z")
Yes - but nobody dares to blow the whistle - so the chance of the CQC finding out is pretty small. On a related note: In the last 3 years I have seen all sorts of illegality happening in Trusts that are ‘not seen’ by t… --- ## [Daughter assessed as having capacity following suicide attempts](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/daughter-assessed-as-having-capacity-following-suicide-attempts/3522)
**Author:** [@A191](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/u/A191)\ **Replies:** 1\ **Last updated:** [2 April 2025 14:40 UTC](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/daughter-assessed-as-having-capacity-following-suicide-attempts/3522 "2025-04-02T14:40:02Z")
Police accidentally found my daughter in the sea up to her neck Friday night, and they took her to the emergency room. They were looking for someone else. She also can barely walk as on crutches they took her in she the… --- ## [Not told about MDT meeting for close relative who you advocate for](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/not-told-about-mdt-meeting-for-close-relative-who-you-advocate-for/3418)
**Author:** [@anon88676405](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/u/anon88676405)\ **Replies:** 9\ **Last updated:** [24 March 2025 22:15 UTC](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/not-told-about-mdt-meeting-for-close-relative-who-you-advocate-for/3418 "2025-03-24T22:15:52Z")
If a MDT is held about a close relative who you advocate for, but you\`re not told and left out, is this wrong? --- ## [Unpaid Carer](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/unpaid-carer/3497)
**Author:** [@anon88676405](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/u/anon88676405)\ **Replies:** 0\ **Last updated:** [27 March 2025 08:58 UTC](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/unpaid-carer/3497 "2025-03-27T08:58:17Z")
What can be done if you are continuously recorded as an unpaid carer, despite explicitly informing everyone that you are no longer able to fulfill this role? Does it affect the funding? --- ## [Impact of service pressures survey](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/impact-of-service-pressures-survey/3472)
**Author:** [@CaptainWalker](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/u/CaptainWalker)\ **Replies:** 0\ **Last updated:** [16 March 2025 23:37 UTC](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/impact-of-service-pressures-survey/3472 "2025-03-16T23:37:49Z")
The increasing pressures on medical services in the UK have had a profound impact on the psychiatric profession, where demand often outstrips capacity. Mental health services are grappling with unprecedented levels of ne… --- ## [Psychiatry](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/psychiatry/3460)
**Author:** [@anonymous52](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/u/anonymous52)\ **Replies:** 5\ **Last updated:** [16 March 2025 13:36 UTC](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/psychiatry/3460 "2025-03-16T13:36:47Z")
Hi Russell, How does your approach differ from regular psychiatry? Now, I don’t generalise all psychiatrists. But based on observation - the idea of psychiatry sounds to me like a pseudoscience held by those not really… --- ## [When is an LGSCO complaint worthwhile?](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/when-is-an-lgsco-complaint-worthwhile/3453)
**Author:** [@anonymous52](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/u/anonymous52)\ **Replies:** 2\ **Last updated:** [14 March 2025 19:11 UTC](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/when-is-an-lgsco-complaint-worthwhile/3453 "2025-03-14T19:11:04Z")
Continuing the discussion from Case (Complaint about MHA assessment not upheld). Medway Council (24 010 714) \[2025\] MHLO 6 (LGSCO): A lot of these cases that have been put forward to the Ombudsman appear not to progress… --- ## [Who decides S17 leave? You may be surprised](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/who-decides-s17-leave-you-may-be-surprised/3457)
**Author:** [@CaptainWalker](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/u/CaptainWalker)\ **Replies:** 0\ **Last updated:** [13 March 2025 20:03 UTC](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/who-decides-s17-leave-you-may-be-surprised/3457 "2025-03-13T20:03:04Z")
The question “Who decides S17 leave?” may appear to be a silly one because ‘everybody’ knows that it is the RC’s responsibility to decide whether to grant leave (surely with MDT involvement and all that jazz). So what’s … --- ## [Treatment outside of Statute in S136 suites](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/treatment-outside-of-statute-in-s136-suites/3436)
**Author:** [@CaptainWalker](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/u/CaptainWalker)\ **Replies:** 0\ **Last updated:** [11 March 2025 23:00 UTC](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/treatment-outside-of-statute-in-s136-suites/3436 "2025-03-11T23:00:43Z")
As everybody should know, S136 does not allow for treatment with medications whether consenting or not. \[I own copyright to the image, just in case\] Scenario this week: Male patient in early 30s with only rudiment… --- ## [Data deletion requests (ASD/C Diagnosis)](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/data-deletion-requests-asd-c-diagnosis/3429)
**Author:** [@aditya](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/u/aditya)\ **Replies:** 0\ **Last updated:** [11 March 2025 09:35 UTC](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/data-deletion-requests-asd-c-diagnosis/3429 "2025-03-11T09:35:28Z")
I am trying to understand if a diagnosis provided by Psychiatry UK can be taken off from my records under the DPA 2018. Additionally, since Pschiatry UK shares this data with the NHS, can I request for such deletion thro… --- ## [Police interview of autistic person without appropriate adult](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/police-interview-of-autistic-person-without-appropriate-adult/3375)
**Author:** [@anon88676405](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/u/anon88676405)\ **Replies:** 15\ **Last updated:** [10 March 2025 07:39 UTC](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/police-interview-of-autistic-person-without-appropriate-adult/3375 "2025-03-10T07:39:37Z")
If the police are called to someone in a care home displaying challenging behaviour, taken away unaccompanied by staff, locked up in a police cell overnight, interviewed without an appropriate adult. The individual is a… --- ## [Accused of stopping S17 leaves](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/accused-of-stopping-s17-leaves/3413)
**Author:** [@CaptainWalker](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/u/CaptainWalker)\ **Replies:** 0\ **Last updated:** [8 March 2025 13:09 UTC](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/accused-of-stopping-s17-leaves/3413 "2025-03-08T13:09:28Z")
Not many people up here may understand the situation where me as a locum enters a new job and inherits some 20 previously unknown patients following an absence of regular RC cover in weeks or months before. It’s worse in… --- ## [DWP, Universal Credit and means testing](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/dwp-universal-credit-and-means-testing/3381)
**Author:** [@Cruachan69](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/u/Cruachan69)\ **Replies:** 3\ **Last updated:** [8 March 2025 10:18 UTC](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/dwp-universal-credit-and-means-testing/3381 "2025-03-08T10:18:08Z")
Dear all, I have arrived back in the UK after an accident at sea and was repatriated to the UK after living abroad for the last 12 years. The accident rendered me homeless and destitute, since the vessel was my home. … --- ## [CTR meetings](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/ctr-meetings/3362)
**Author:** [@Karen](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/u/Karen)\ **Replies:** 5\ **Last updated:** [4 March 2025 08:13 UTC](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/ctr-meetings/3362 "2025-03-04T08:13:50Z")
I wondered if anyone else had experienced some actively unhelpful CTR meetings. I have attended a couple which were useful but many others which were potentially damaging. The main problem seems to be that the some Pane… --- ## [Diminished reponsibility and intent](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/diminished-reponsibility-and-intent/800)
**Author:** [@Joolsleeds](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/u/Joolsleeds)\ **Replies:** 5\ **Last updated:** [25 February 2025 12:41 UTC](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/diminished-reponsibility-and-intent/800 "2025-02-25T12:41:57Z")
Should a person who has planned and carried out a murder be allowed to argue that a mental disorder had diminished his responsibility for the crime? Interesting case from Singapore. Is there anything similar from the c… --- ## [Precedent letters of instruction for independent experts](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/precedent-letters-of-instruction-for-independent-experts/3326)
**Author:** [@Lmcadams13954](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/u/Lmcadams13954)\ **Replies:** 1\ **Last updated:** [24 February 2025 10:27 UTC](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/precedent-letters-of-instruction-for-independent-experts/3326 "2025-02-24T10:27:03Z")
Hi, I was just wondering if there are any links anywhere to suggested letters of instruction to an independent psychiatrist? Thank you --- ## [Jail or deportation for Valdo Calocane](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/jail-or-deportation-for-valdo-calocane/3323)
**Author:** [@Herystote](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/u/Herystote)\ **Replies:** 2\ **Last updated:** [23 February 2025 22:03 UTC](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/jail-or-deportation-for-valdo-calocane/3323 "2025-02-23T22:03:18Z")
For me I think that says it all. Someone like VC needed to be locked up in jail or deported back into their own country rather than be given special privileges for 9 days waiting for a PICU bed. --- ## [Failure of NHS England to publish full reports following patient homicides](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/failure-of-nhs-england-to-publish-full-reports-following-patient-homicides/3237)
**Author:** [@Joolsleeds](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/u/Joolsleeds)\ **Replies:** 14\ **Last updated:** [19 February 2025 20:44 UTC](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/failure-of-nhs-england-to-publish-full-reports-following-patient-homicides/3237 "2025-02-19T20:44:37Z")
The Times today picks up on the failure of NHS England to publish full reports following patient homicides. --- ## [New Legal Help form](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/new-legal-help-form/3214)
**Author:** [@SeanWaters](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/u/SeanWaters)\ **Replies:** 0\ **Last updated:** [6 February 2025 11:48 UTC](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/new-legal-help-form/3214 "2025-02-06T11:48:03Z")
There is a new CW1&2 here: Legal Aid Agency, ‘Form CW 1&2 MH’ (v21, February 2025). --- ## [Removing diagnosis from medical records](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/removing-diagnosis-from-medical-records/3160)
**Author:** [@Herystote](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/u/Herystote)\ **Replies:** 9\ **Last updated:** [4 February 2025 21:23 UTC](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/removing-diagnosis-from-medical-records/3160 "2025-02-04T21:23:18Z")
Below was a quote from Simon Foster (Sifo) in reference to patients attempting to amend their diagnosis on record in one of my posts. If Mr Foster is reading this - can you explain this specific part. Are you saying -… --- ## [Disputing a diagnosis given during the sectioning process?](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/disputing-a-diagnosis-given-during-the-sectioning-process/2305)
**Author:** [@Herystote](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/u/Herystote)\ **Replies:** 18\ **Last updated:** [27 January 2025 23:57 UTC](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/disputing-a-diagnosis-given-during-the-sectioning-process/2305 "2025-01-27T23:57:41Z")
If a person wants to clear their medical records of a diagnosis written about them when they were sectioned. What is the correct process of disputing this? It appears that at local GP level they can not do anything abou… --- ## [Stopping antipsychotic medication for autism](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/stopping-antipsychotic-medication-for-autism/3134)
**Author:** [@anon88676405](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/u/anon88676405)\ **Replies:** 1\ **Last updated:** [22 January 2025 22:57 UTC](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/stopping-antipsychotic-medication-for-autism/3134 "2025-01-22T22:57:32Z")
If an individual with a primary diagnosis of autism and secondary diagnoses of F29 Unspecified non-organic psychosis and anxiety disorder has been prescribed anti-psychotic medication for several years, then is assigned … [Previous page](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/c/law-and-practice/other/16.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/c/law-and-practice/other/16.md?page=3)