# Other **URL:** https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/c/law-and-practice/other/16.md [Latest](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/latest.md) · [Categories](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/categories.md) · [Tags](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/tags.md) --- ## [About the Other category](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/about-the-other-category/1743)
**Author:** [@MHLO](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/u/MHLO)\ **Replies:** 0\ **Last updated:** [21 July 2023 21:41 UTC](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/about-the-other-category/1743 "2023-07-21T21:41:48Z")
Law and practice topics that don’t fit into the other sub-categories. --- ## [Legal Aid audit -- Level 1 or Level 2 fee](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/legal-aid-audit-level-1-or-level-2-fee/6186)
**Author:** [@SPurkis](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/u/SPurkis)\ **Replies:** 1\ **Last updated:** [6 October 2026 09:14 UTC](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/legal-aid-audit-level-1-or-level-2-fee/6186 "2026-10-06T09:14:49Z")
Hi everyone, We have recently undergone our annual LAA audit, during which one of our files was downgraded from a Level 2 to a Level 1 fee. On the file in question, we had contacted the client’s Nearest Relative and pr… --- ## [Advice wanted on being assessed by CMHT, sectioned and forced to sign financial LPA](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/advice-wanted-on-being-assessed-by-cmht-sectioned-and-forced-to-sign-financial-lpa/6126)
**Author:** [@anonymous97](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/u/anonymous97)\ **Replies:** 9\ **Last updated:** [30 September 2026 16:42 UTC](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/advice-wanted-on-being-assessed-by-cmht-sectioned-and-forced-to-sign-financial-lpa/6126 "2026-09-30T16:42:31Z")
I experienced a nervous breakdown after severe stress and 111 was contacted. I explained my symptoms and was told it wasnt mental illness go to the GP. I then suddenly had the crisis team coming down. I had no idea what … --- ## [AGNI ruling - paradigm psychiatric settings](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/agni-ruling-paradigm-psychiatric-settings/6135)
**Author:** [@steve-trunk](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/u/steve-trunk)\ **Replies:** 1\ **Last updated:** [17 September 2026 08:48 UTC](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/agni-ruling-paradigm-psychiatric-settings/6135 "2026-09-17T08:48:14Z")
With regard to the paradigm of a prison cell there are also several references to psychiatric settings. In reality the majority of wards now see P being behind double or triple locked doors with the prospect of the MHA… --- ## [Medical treatment to address future sex offending risk ](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/medical-treatment-to-address-future-sex-offending-risk/6042)
**Author:** [@CaptainWalker](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/u/CaptainWalker)\ **Replies:** 0\ **Last updated:** [26 August 2026 22:24 UTC](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/medical-treatment-to-address-future-sex-offending-risk/6042 "2026-08-26T22:24:06Z")
It’s called Medication to Manage Problematic Sexual Arousal. The short name is MMPSA. Pick up on the story Thousands of sex offenders in England and Wales could get libido-suppressing drugs | Prisons and probation | The … --- ## [LGSCO decision not to investigate](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/lgsco-decision-not-to-investigate/5962)
**Author:** [@Andrew](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/u/Andrew)\ **Replies:** 1\ **Last updated:** [26 August 2026 22:16 UTC](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/lgsco-decision-not-to-investigate/5962 "2026-08-26T22:16:57Z")
Continuing the discussion from Aftercare accommodation and "original condition": This probably does not link directly to this specific matter, but the form of words used in my contact with LGSCO may be worth a branch of… --- ## [Mental-health and equality issues in ongoing civil proceedings](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/mental-health-and-equality-issues-in-ongoing-civil-proceedings/4485)
**Author:** [@cnp](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/u/cnp)\ **Replies:** 2\ **Last updated:** [23 August 2026 16:24 UTC](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/mental-health-and-equality-issues-in-ongoing-civil-proceedings/4485 "2026-08-23T16:24:44Z")
Hello everyone, My case doesn’t fall under the Mental Health Tribunal, but I believe it raises serious issues under mental-health and equality law. I’m hoping someone might be able to signpost me to the right HMCTS cont… --- ## [Status of Health and Social Care Act 2024 statutory guidance requiring carers' involvement in discharge planning](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/status-of-health-and-social-care-act-2024-statutory-guidance-requiring-carers-involvement-in-discharge-planning/5928)
**Author:** [@wellsj](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/u/wellsj)\ **Replies:** 5\ **Last updated:** [25 July 2026 17:29 UTC](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/status-of-health-and-social-care-act-2024-statutory-guidance-requiring-carers-involvement-in-discharge-planning/5928 "2026-07-25T17:29:22Z")
Hi All. I have a query that is not strictly about the MHA. It is about the Health and Social Care Act 2024 and the statutory guidance that says that where appropriate hospitals must involve carers in the discharge planni… --- ## [Prison and MOJ rules override of MCA 2005?](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/prison-and-moj-rules-override-of-mca-2005/5756)
**Author:** [@CaptainWalker](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/u/CaptainWalker)\ **Replies:** 3\ **Last updated:** [17 June 2026 18:24 UTC](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/prison-and-moj-rules-override-of-mca-2005/5756 "2026-06-17T18:24:22Z")
I’m told (and can’t give details) that for patients who need to be moved from prisons - say following life-threatening overdoses - to a general hospital for emergency life-saving treatment - that if such patients (prison… --- ## [Information governance and data security in mental health services](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/information-governance-and-data-security-in-mental-health-services/5636)
**Author:** [@CaptainWalker](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/u/CaptainWalker)\ **Replies:** 2\ **Last updated:** [1 June 2026 20:57 UTC](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/information-governance-and-data-security-in-mental-health-services/5636 "2026-06-01T20:57:56Z")
I hope this is something that will be allowed for discussion. I’ll give my own anonymised experience in a bit. Data security is the business of HMCTS big time as per ‘Tribunals’. All judicial officers are warned repeate… --- ## [The Use of AI Transcription in Assessments](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/the-use-of-ai-transcription-in-assessments/5369)
**Author:** [@JamesCodling](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/u/JamesCodling)\ **Replies:** 16\ **Last updated:** [28 May 2026 08:21 UTC](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/the-use-of-ai-transcription-in-assessments/5369 "2026-05-28T08:21:48Z")
Hi All I have been looking into the use of AI in the social care sector, as i have very specific concerns, both legal and ethical, about how certain AI tools are being used for social care assessments, especially when t… --- ## [Time scale for submitting 3x files to LA for billing](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/time-scale-for-submitting-3x-files-to-la-for-billing/5596)
**Author:** [@TiredLegalRep](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/u/TiredLegalRep)\ **Replies:** 2\ **Last updated:** [13 May 2026 11:18 UTC](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/time-scale-for-submitting-3x-files-to-la-for-billing/5596 "2026-05-13T11:18:55Z")
Have been told that the cut off period for billing 3x files is 6 years not the usual 3 months. Is this correct? --- ## [External supervision/support for mental health team](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/external-supervision-support-for-mental-health-team/5591)
**Author:** [@Balmullo](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/u/Balmullo)\ **Replies:** 3\ **Last updated:** [7 May 2026 06:59 UTC](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/external-supervision-support-for-mental-health-team/5591 "2026-05-07T06:59:10Z")
Do any legal representatives/panel members have access to any external professional supervision, other than the supervision requirements of work under the legal aid contract? I am conscious that as professionals we some… --- ## [Advice to conduct a privileged review of medical records. MHA and Code of Practice](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/advice-to-conduct-a-privileged-review-of-medical-records-mha-and-code-of-practice/5455)
**Author:** [@AC2000](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/u/AC2000)\ **Replies:** 3\ **Last updated:** [13 April 2026 13:43 UTC](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/advice-to-conduct-a-privileged-review-of-medical-records-mha-and-code-of-practice/5455 "2026-04-13T13:43:34Z")
Can you please advise or recommend a specific firm? Type of Solicitor Needed: Specialist in Mental Health Act (1983) & Medical Records (Data Protection)& Human right/Discrimination Details of the Case: I am looking fo… --- ## [CTO and AWOL , stopped medications](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/cto-and-awol-stopped-medications/5448)
**Author:** [@amod](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/u/amod)\ **Replies:** 6\ **Last updated:** [11 April 2026 19:00 UTC](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/cto-and-awol-stopped-medications/5448 "2026-04-11T19:00:43Z")
Advice needed Patient with diagnosis of chronic longstanding resistant schizoaffective disorder discharged on CTO from hospital recently on oral antipsychotic medication . P stopped medications and was AWOL briefly … --- ## [Training and learning areas for primary care](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/training-and-learning-areas-for-primary-care/5409)
**Author:** [@MentalHealthNurse](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/u/MentalHealthNurse)\ **Replies:** 3\ **Last updated:** [1 April 2026 16:09 UTC](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/training-and-learning-areas-for-primary-care/5409 "2026-04-01T16:09:02Z")
Forum members - I am organising a teaching session around mental health act and mental health law to take place in a monthly interface meeting I hold in my primary care network (London based), attended by GPs and other p… --- ## [S.117 and property damage](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/s-117-and-property-damage/5112)
**Author:** [@mhuseyin123](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/u/mhuseyin123)\ **Replies:** 5\ **Last updated:** [28 March 2026 11:52 UTC](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/s-117-and-property-damage/5112 "2026-03-28T11:52:44Z")
Hi We have had a tenant under a S.117 continuing care cause around £50,000 of property damage however the commissioners are stating that they will not pay for these damages as they are not responsible. They have told u… --- ## [Expedited Parole Board Review - s47/49 patients](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/expedited-parole-board-review-s47-49-patients/5372)
**Author:** [@Rob\_Beech](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/u/Rob_Beech)\ **Replies:** 3\ **Last updated:** [24 March 2026 17:09 UTC](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/expedited-parole-board-review-s47-49-patients/5372 "2026-03-24T17:09:16Z")
Afternoon, I have a recollection of there being an expedited process for the Parole Board reviewing cases for s47/49 patient’s whose discharge pathway is via hospital. Is anyone able to point me in the right direction … --- ## [CTO Patient in ED - Recalled elsewhere](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/cto-patient-in-ed-recalled-elsewhere/5302)
**Author:** [@lkerosevic](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/u/lkerosevic)\ **Replies:** 3\ **Last updated:** [18 March 2026 18:45 UTC](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/cto-patient-in-ed-recalled-elsewhere/5302 "2026-03-18T18:45:46Z")
What do we think about this hypothetical situation where a person is recalled to Hospital A but turns up/brought by police/LAS/self presents at A&E in Hospital B (with or without a physical health issue). Can we reissue… --- ## [Lawyer Advice](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/lawyer-advice/5223)
**Author:** [@anonymous60](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/u/anonymous60)\ **Replies:** 3\ **Last updated:** [3 March 2026 21:34 UTC](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/lawyer-advice/5223 "2026-03-03T21:34:36Z")
Hello. I am seeking advice on potential Human Rights Act claims following prolonged detention after a successful Mental Health Tribunal discharge and significant Parole Board delays. I have now been released on licence.… --- ## [Nottingham Public Inquiry](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/nottingham-public-inquiry/5217)
**Author:** [@Joolsleeds](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/u/Joolsleeds)\ **Replies:** 1\ **Last updated:** [24 February 2026 12:03 UTC](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/nottingham-public-inquiry/5217 "2026-02-24T12:03:23Z")
The Nottingham Public Inquiry started yesterday Proceedings are being live-streamed on the Inquiry’s Youtube channel - https://www.youtube.com/@thenottinghaminquiry Transcripts of testimony are being made available at … --- ## [Independent reports](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/independent-reports/5052)
**Author:** [@Cheryl](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/u/Cheryl)\ **Replies:** 2\ **Last updated:** [29 January 2026 14:34 UTC](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/independent-reports/5052 "2026-01-29T14:34:26Z")
Is anyone else finding it difficult to obtain an independent Psychiatric report for MHT’s? I have been told by some Dr’s it is because of the low rates paid under LA, they are not prepared to do them. I used an agency l… --- ## [Definition of independent decision making?](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/definition-of-independent-decision-making/5039)
**Author:** [@Andrew](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/u/Andrew)\ **Replies:** 0\ **Last updated:** [25 January 2026 20:29 UTC](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/definition-of-independent-decision-making/5039 "2026-01-25T20:29:27Z")
Is there some definition of independent decision making? Kahneman with others in Fast and Slow Thinking and Noise point to studies where in a committee setting people are influenced by things like seniority, alpha person… --- ## [When to expect a Supreme Court decision in Lewis-Ranwell vs G4S](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/when-to-expect-a-supreme-court-decision-in-lewis-ranwell-vs-g4s/4933)
**Author:** [@Nickwoo](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/u/Nickwoo)\ **Replies:** 1\ **Last updated:** [21 January 2026 12:10 UTC](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/when-to-expect-a-supreme-court-decision-in-lewis-ranwell-vs-g4s/4933 "2026-01-21T12:10:14Z")
Does anyone know when to expect the decision in https://www.supremecourt.uk/cases/uksc-2024-0039 ? (Lewis-Ranwell vs G4S and others). At the end of the hearing in July last year, they said the decision (on the ‘difficult… --- ## [Urgency and the right to share personal data](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/urgency-and-the-right-to-share-personal-data/4938)
**Author:** [@Rql65t](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/u/Rql65t)\ **Replies:** 1\ **Last updated:** [10 January 2026 05:52 UTC](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/urgency-and-the-right-to-share-personal-data/4938 "2026-01-10T05:52:17Z")
A Surrey AMHP recorded that personal data about a subject was shared due to urgency. The data subject had removed consent to share data, dissented to referrals for MH support, was not known to services, was rightly asse… --- ## [Maternity leave and KIT days as mental health lawyer](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/maternity-leave-and-kit-days-as-mental-health-lawyer/4909)
**Author:** [@BeaWebster](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/u/BeaWebster)\ **Replies:** 4\ **Last updated:** [7 January 2026 15:03 UTC](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/maternity-leave-and-kit-days-as-mental-health-lawyer/4909 "2026-01-07T15:03:01Z")
I’m currently on maternity leave due to return to work in March. I’d like to do at least a couple of KIT days to ease myself back into work but can’t quite envisage how it would work in mental health law practice. If any… --- ## [Why are mental health professionals and doctors held in some way responsible for a person's suicide soon after contact?](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/why-are-mental-health-professionals-and-doctors-held-in-some-way-responsible-for-a-persons-suicide-soon-after-contact/4478)
**Author:** [@Andrew](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/u/Andrew)\ **Replies:** 12\ **Last updated:** [20 December 2025 18:21 UTC](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/why-are-mental-health-professionals-and-doctors-held-in-some-way-responsible-for-a-persons-suicide-soon-after-contact/4478 "2025-12-20T18:21:13Z")
I thought the idea of medical involvement was to help people with serious mental disorder manage their lives as well as possible. They can’t control the person in all respects. --- ## [Should psychologists lead the mental health services instead of psychiatrists?](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/should-psychologists-lead-the-mental-health-services-instead-of-psychiatrists/4845)
**Author:** [@SadrinaC](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/u/SadrinaC)\ **Replies:** 9\ **Last updated:** [18 December 2025 10:50 UTC](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/should-psychologists-lead-the-mental-health-services-instead-of-psychiatrists/4845 "2025-12-18T10:50:58Z")
Psychologists are the ones with all the psychological knowledge, psychiatrists just have a diagnostic tool for medication. --- ## [Impact of Mazur on Mental Health Law?](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/impact-of-mazur-on-mental-health-law/4351)
**Author:** [@ZacSussex](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/u/ZacSussex)\ **Replies:** 6\ **Last updated:** [15 December 2025 22:35 UTC](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/impact-of-mazur-on-mental-health-law/4351 "2025-12-15T22:35:59Z")
Does anyone have any strong views about whether the Mazur ruling has any impact on casework in MH law? I’ve seen some departments that don’t have a regulated person (either ILEX or panel accreditation only) so it seems … --- ## [Vulnerable person's 2-3 day absence from placement not reported to safeguarding](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/vulnerable-persons-2-3-day-absence-from-placement-not-reported-to-safeguarding/4824)
**Author:** [@MetaphorMuse](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/u/MetaphorMuse)\ **Replies:** 3\ **Last updated:** [14 December 2025 21:57 UTC](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/t/vulnerable-persons-2-3-day-absence-from-placement-not-reported-to-safeguarding/4824 "2025-12-14T21:57:18Z")
If a vulnerable individual leaves a placement they dislike and remains absent for two or three days, what are the consequences if this incident is not reported to safeguarding, and what actions could or should be taken? [Next page](https://forum.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/c/law-and-practice/other/16.md?page=1)